CRE Console took up the discussion on technical indicators on their blog yesterday which I loved. I would love it if a CRE blogosphere develops to include discussion of real topics, rather than simply “Ten Tips for Hiring Me as Your Broker” type blog posts. CRE Console obviously avoids those kind of posts and I try to do the same.
CRE Console makes some good points related to the utility of technical indicators. Their primary point is that technical indicators are simply not “real time” in real estate, and therefore the shortcomings in data are going to limit the effectiveness of the indicators. I’m somewhat receptive to this point, though there are some counterarguments that I could be persuaded by.
To start with it’s useful to note that CRE should never be seen as a short term investment. Just the transaction costs alone require that you hold the asset for some time. Given that it’s realistic that you’re going to hold each asset for multiple years, you’re necessarily looking for short term movements in price as the indicators that are going to influence your decision to buy/sell. That’s why I used a four quarter trailing average on the graph that I put together.
In my mind, the real utility of technical indicators is the potential to help investors separate out the noise in the echo chamber from what is really happening in the market. Most investors rely on the cyclical nature of the real estate market for their largest gains, and yet if most investors could figure out the swings in the market, there would be no real opportunity. It is because investors have such a tough time getting away from the herd mentality that there is opportunity for the few that are able to figure it out. Technical indicators could be developed to give investors a better chance of outperforming the market.
There will surely be a group of people who will say “What are you talking about? Investors already analyze data to make their decisions.” My only response to that is BS. They don’t. They analyze the data to reaffirm their emotional feelings about what they would like the market to do. They analyze the data and then say “Yeah, but [insert excuse as to why they aren’t going to act on the data]”.
What I’m talking about is looking at a number of different indicators like price, vacancy rates, website traffic at the CRE portals, new product deliveries, etc. I think that these data points should be analyzed as far back as you could get the data, empirically tested, and then used to create buy/sell alarms. But these buy/sell alarms would at best get things right by a few months of the optimal time to buy/sell, not within days or hours as is the case with the stock market.
I’m not saying that these indicators would be all that you would use to make your buy/sell decisions. I’m also not suggesting that someone go develop a quant real estate trading platform (trading REITs would be a better and more liquid platform if that was your interest). But I am saying that because investors are emotional individuals ill-equipped to predict market swings, that technical indicators would put the investors who decide to use them much further ahead.

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there is a lot to be said for CRE consoles comments about timing. within 3 months or so you can be very accurate as to where we are in a market cycle. not if we are at a top or a bottom, but if there is significant divergence from the norms. that is very helpful. but what technical indicators dont help with is the financing on your property, the economic fundamentals of your location and the price at which you can effect a sale in order to capitalize on what timing we do know about. as an asset manager it would be important to re-value your portfolio consistently to see if the changes in the market place and the techinical indicators would allow you to revert your property and achieve the yield you invested for.
i think a lot of us that were in brokerage and spend time on these ideas already look at some of these indicators when pricing real estate. institutions have access to the research needed for this stuff, but they generally rely on cbre to handle the life cycle and only sell when they are losing money or the market has jumped and they can dump. mom and pops just dont have the time or the access to information.
Or maybe it is a Relative Strength Index, so that the data is more meaningful: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_Strength_In…
Thoughts?
i need to look at the wiki more closely, but creating something of that nature for CRE to accomodate the glacial movements and correlated with investor sentiment would be interesting.
and i bet we could gather a handful of sources already available to be aggregated to start testing theories and algorithms. not that im saying im capable of that. i work in CRE for god's sake, but i think its possible to start.
I wonder how you can correlate the surveys already available to create an RSI. and how closely you could get the RSI to current market or if you could use it to forecast out a few months (like long enough to get a property to market and know which way sentiment is going).
http://www.costar.com/News/Article.aspx?id=E51CEF…
costar is jumping in to the game as well.
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